another query

[Erik Hoover]

Wilson,

As in the mondegreen "...ploughmen dig my 'erb?"  That's the way I
heard it for decades.



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        Erik Hoover
        Business Analyst
        Novomer, Inc.
        Ithaca, NY
        607-330-2321
        eah at novomer.com

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On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:58 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> My experience is the similar to A's. I finally was converted after I
> was struck from my high horse by Jimi Hendrix's use of "'erb."
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> -Wilson
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> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM, sagehen <sagehen at westelcom.com>
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>>  on 4/25/08 9:30 AM, Laurence Horn at laurence.horn at YALE.EDU wrote:
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>>> Not on hypercorrection this time, much less gender, but on the
>>> history of "herbs" in America.  A colleague was asked:
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>>>> In the phrase "With sudden greens and herbage crown'd," how would
>>>> "herbage" have been pronounced in 18th century Boston?  More
>>>> specifically, would the "h" have been pronounced?
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>>> He couldn't answer reliably; nor can I (although we'd each have a
>>> 50-50 chance of getting it right). Anyone else?
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>>> Thanks,
>>> LH
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>>  I grew up with the "h,"  but I can't say with certainty that my
>>  contemporaries in NE in the '30s  spoke as I did.  My pron. came
>> from both
>>  parents.  Moving to the West Coast in the late '40s  & elsewhere
>> around the
>>  country thereafter I realized that most people said "'erb" nearly
>>  everywhere.  Up here in this border country where Canadian radio
>> & tv are
>>  most of what we hear, I notice that "herb" seems to be standard
>> in Canada.
>>  AM
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