ghoti = fish
Wilson Gray
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Thu May 1 14:06:38 UTC 2008
No wonder that you divorced!
-Wilson
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at wmich.edu> wrote:
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> It's a valid BE pronunciation in most dialects. I remember getting
> into debates with my Scottish-born ex-wife as to whether "French"
> had /ntS/ or /nS/ at the end. With me, it was the first one; with
> her, the second.
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> Yours,
> Paul Johnston
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> On Apr 22, 2008, at 6:26 PM, David Borowitz wrote:
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> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Matthew Gordon
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> >> ti is sh, as in mention, attention, &c.
> >
> >
> > A bit off-topic, but the 'ti' in both of those is pretty clearly
> > [tS] for me
> > and not [S]. Wikipedia gives 'ti' as in 'nation', which is better
> > for me. My
> > question is, do we think 'mention' with [S] might be a mistake on
> > the part
> > of the author, or was that a valid BE pronunciation 100-150 years
> > ago? (Or
> > is it a valid BE pronunciation today?)
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