Heard on The Judges: "tell NP said"

Paul Johnston paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Thu May 8 18:57:14 UTC 2008


Wilson:
Is this related to the Gullah/Caribbean Creole use of "seh" as a
complementizer, roughly equivalent to "that"?  Can it occur with
verbs NOT involving speaking?

Yours,
Paul Johnston
On May 8, 2008, at 11:31 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:

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> Everybody who cares knows about the BE (and general SE, judging by
> Comedy Central's good ol' boy comics) "tell NP said" construction.
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> A fancy version spoken by a sixty-ish black woman:
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> "He _had a conversation with me said_ he would get a credit card
> for me ..."
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> In various readings, I've come across the eye-dialect BE "becase" and
> I've wondered what it was meant to represent. This same woman used a
> pronunciation that sounded to me like [bikez] alternating with,
> perhaps, [bikEz]. She also pronounced "power" as [pauv@] alternating
> with [pauw@], i.e. [-auv@] alternating with usual (but becoming ever
> less so - a casualty of desegregation, no doubt - with [au] being
> replaced by sE [aeu]) [-auw@]. I've heard this kind of pronunciation
> used by Louis Armstrong, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, etc., in
> singing, but this is first time that I can recall hearing it in
> ordinary speech.
>
> -Wilson
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