"Oil as spiritous drink?

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon May 19 20:15:32 UTC 2008


The Red Sox once had a pitcher known to the bruthaz - and to everyone
else, really - as "Oil Can," because of his propensity for getting
oiled. The drinking, which moved a black newspaper to refer to him as
"The Brother From Another Planet" as a consequence of his drunken
antics on the mound, eventually destroyed his career.

-Wilson

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> HDAS has "the joyful" meaning spiritous drink from 1835, and topselling hymnsmith Isaac Watts has a metaphorical "joyful oil" from at least 1769:
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>  1769 Isaac Watts _The Psalms of David Imitated in the Language of the New Testament_ (ed. 22)  (London: T. Longman, C. & R. Ware, et al.) 100: Thy Father and thy God, / Hath, without measure, shed / His Spirit like a joyful oil / T' anoint thy sacred head.
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>  So you get "joyful oil" = "the joyful" by 1900:
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>  1900 _Annual Report of the Indiana State Board of Agriculture_  (Indianapolis: I.S.B.A.) 1042: He will tie his horse to the hitch rack and run to the nearest fire, and, perhaps, go to a joint where he will take a nip of joyful oil to drive out the cold.
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>  More expressive than common.  Good find, Joel.
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>  JL
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> Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> I hate when that happens! Sorry about that, Joel. I should simply have
> given you the info and left out the extra stuff, such as I'm
> continuing to add, even as we speak.
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> The correct answer is: HDAS appears to have 1917 for simple "oil" as a
> spiritous drink. But HDAS's oldest, clearly-attested cite is only from
> 1918. It appears to me that you have an antedating, if you have a
> clear 1917. But we - you and I - won't know till Jon bringeth down the
> tablets in his response.
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> -Wilson
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> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
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>> Yes I mean "alcoholic beverage" (is that different from "spiritous
>> drink? :-) ) -- but in the bare, without any modifier.
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>> The quote is:
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>> oh boss
>> you ask too much of us we have no flair for toil
>> we d rather daily dally thus-imbibing joyful oil
>> you can t expect a man to souse
>> and do work for your business house
>>
>> The date is November 14, 1917.
>>
>> [The hyphen probably is intended to be an em-dash; this was written
>> on a manual typewriter, without that character, and two extra
>> head-butts would not have been appreciated by Archy.]
>>
>> I see that OED3 has a draft revision March 2008, for "oil n.1", with
>> "C2. In extended use {dag}d. Strong drink, as oil of barley, oil of
>> malt. Cf. sense 5. Obs.", latest citation 1881, and all quotations
>> are of the form "oil of ". I observe:
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>> There are no citations of just plain "oil" (C is "Combinations and
>> phrasal collocations", of course).
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>> Which was not obsolete at least as of 1917; and I'll bet it can be
>> found much later.
>>
>> The reference to sense 5 is mysterious; that's "5. In pl. The sector
>> of the commodities or stock market represented by oil or oils (now,
>> esp. petroleum); shares in an oil or petroleum company." (?)
>>
>> Joel
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>> At 5/17/2008 12:26 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>>>You mean "oil" as in "ignorant-oil" = alcoholic beverage? HDAS has 1917.
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>>>-Wilson
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>>>On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
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>>> > When does "oil" as spiritous drink (by itself, not as "oil of
>>> > barley", etc.) appear? I couldn't locate this sense in OED2.
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>>> > Joel
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