ADS-L Digest - 21 May 2008 to 22 May 2008 (#2008-144)

Scot LaFaive slafaive at GMAIL.COM
Sat May 24 18:58:36 UTC 2008


>Most popular vowel in US English is ~u (short u or "uh") and least is ~oi.

Technically, isn't schwa the most popular (US) English vowel? Or is ~u
your version of schwa?

Scot

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> In truespel there are 3 "r" affected vowels ~or (as in "or" "door" "four"), ~er (as in "her") and ~air (as in "air").
> The "o" in ~or is between long o "oh" (~oe) and "awe" (~au).  Some accents tend either way.  For "more money" you might hear ~moe munee~ or ~mau munee~.
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> There are 17 vowels in US English.  The 14 other vowels are the 5 short vowels, ~a ~e ~i ~oo ~u (I call ~oo a short o vowel - its stands for the sound in "foot" wood")  The 5 long vowels that have silent e snugged up to them ~ae ~ee ~ie ~oe ~ue.  The two diphthongs ~ou (as in "out") and ~oi (as in "point") and 2 others "awe" ~au and "ah" ~aa (as in Saab).
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> Most popular vowel in US English is ~u (short u or "uh") and least is ~oi.
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> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at authorhouse.com.
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>> Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:51:32 -0400
>> From: sagehen at WESTELCOM.COM
>> Subject: Re: ADS-L Digest - 21 May 2008 to 22 May 2008 (#2008-144)
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>> on 5/23/08 12:21 PM, Tom Zurinskas at truespel at HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
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>>> Actually, there's not a single instance in my truespel database where
>>> tradstreeng "oo" is pronounced as long o, or "oh" ~oe.
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>> What about "door"?
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>>> Interestingly, I find in my analysis of English (USA), that tradstreeng "oo"
>>> is more often pronounce as in "look" (~look) and "wood" (~wood) than any other
>>> sound, including long u as in "food" ~fued, and "soon", ~suen.
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>>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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>> Without knowing what is meant by "tradstreeng" I nevertheless have to
>> notice: /boo, coo, foo, goo, hoo, loo, moo, poo, roo, too, woo/, and many
>> another with following consonants. In fact, my unresearched assumption would
>> be that, faced with an unfamiliar word with "oo" in it the "food" vowel
>> would be one's first choice.
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