PPP "retrofit"

[Wilson Gray]

Quelle coincidence! I'm familiar with Prof. Zimbardo and some of his
work. He's written a book on shyness and how one might overcome it.
His method doesn't work for me, unfortunately. I'm too shy to use
it.:-(

So far, I haven't heard PPP _fit_, etc. OTOH, I first heard PPP _shit_
back in the 'Sixties. The phrase,"curse like a [member of a branch of
the armed forces]" is all too accurate. I've also heard the PPP
_shat_, possiby influenced by _sat_. I use _shitted_, myself.

When I first heard white GI's using the pasts, "shit" and "shat," I
thought that they were just joking or farting around. It wasn't until
I was browsing through the AHD about ten years later that I discovered
that these forms are as ordinary for some speakers as "shitted" is for
others.

-Wilson

All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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-Mark Twain



On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net> wrote:
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> See my post
> http://literalminded.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/retrofit-and-reverse-engineer-shameful-synonymy/
> for another example:
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> "The tactics developed by the SERE programs were part of the protocol for
> defensive training of military personnel in case of enemy capture; however,
> after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, they were _retrofit_ to
> be part of the arsenal of offensive tactics to elicit information from
> military personnel or civilians considered as enemies." (Philip Zimbardo,
> _The Lucifer Effect_, 2007, p. 253)
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>> Heard on  the Weather Channel:
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>> "Between now and the time that these [approaches to the Golden Gate
>> Bridge] get _retrofit_ is about ten years."
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>> I'd say "get _retrofitted_." But then, I also say "shitted, fitted,
>> pitted," etc.
>>
>> -Wilson
>>
>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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>> -Mark Twain
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