"Needful"?

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Oct 21 14:52:33 UTC 2008


At 10:33 AM -0400 10/21/08, Wilson Gray wrote:
>My impression is that he used it to mean "things that come in handy or
>are needed, necessities of life," etc.
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>-Wilson

But knowing Stephen King (although I confess not the book in
question), he may well have intentionally been referencing both
senses of the term.

LH

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>On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Marc Velasco <marcjvelasco at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  How was it used when Stephen King wrote the book?
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>>  On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>>  In a book published in 1891 (1st ed. 1871), the author writes of the
>>>  central section of Boston in the early 17th century, that in that
>>>  area "dwelt the notables of the town,---the governor, the elder of
>>>  the church, the captain of the artillery company, and the most
>>>  needful of the craftsmen and artificers of the humble plantation; and
>>>  at a short distance from it were the meeting-house, the market-house,
>>>  the town-house, the school-house, and the ever-flowing spring of pure
>>>  water."
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>>>  Am I right in understanding "needful" here as adj.1, sense 1,
>>>  "Requisite, necessary, indispensable, essential." -- that is, where
>>>  one today might say "needed, necessary, essential" -- rather than
>>>  sense 2, "Of a person: poor, needy; lacking the necessities of life."?
>>>
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