Chomsky's endorsement

Scot LaFaive slafaive at GMAIL.COM
Wed Oct 22 01:04:10 UTC 2008


>the whole situation seems to call for an optimality-theoretic solution

I'm not sure Chomsky would approve of that.

Scot



On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 7:40 PM -0500 10/21/08, Scot LaFaive wrote:
>>  >So it depends on where you're voting.
>>
>>Do you think he could make a transformational rule to take this into
>>account? Perhaps some kind of parameter for a general overarching
>>voting principle?
>>
>>Scot
>
> I don't know; the whole situation seems to call for an
> optimality-theoretic solution, with the different constraints ranked
> differently in different dialect areas.  Maybe I'm writing under the
> influence of a talk I just heard Bill Labov give in which the
> isogloss for the Northern Cities Vowel Shift is superimposed on
> voting patterns from the 19th century to the current blue state/red
> state (or actually blue counties/red counties) splits...
>
> LH
>
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Laurence Horn
>><laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>>>  At 2:07 PM -0400 10/20/08, RonButters at AOL.COM wrote:
>>>>I suspect Ralph Nader will get Chomsky's vote. Nader might well claim to be
>>>>post-transformational. He is certainly running a minimalist campaign.
>>>
>>>  ;-)
>>>  Actually, though, to my surprise, there's some data on this (tip o'
>>>  the hat to Gregory Ward, who brought this to my attention):
>>>
>>>>>Chomsky says pick the lesser of two evils
>>>>>
>>>>>Noam Chomsky: People should vote against McCain and for Obama - but
>>>>>without illusions
>>>>>
>>>>>See interview at -
>>>>>
>>>>><http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view>http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2593&updaterx=2008-10-20+10%3A50%3A58
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chomsky says while it's true that the two parties are essentially
>>>>>like factions of one party - the party of business - the
>>>>>differences do matter to ordinary people. If you are living in a
>>>>>swing state, there is nothing wrong with picking the lesser of two
>>>>>evils.
>>>
>>>  So it depends on where you're voting.
>>>
>>>  LH
>>>
>>>>In a message dated 10/20/08 1:53:22 PM, hwgray at GMAIL.COM writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>   From the NYT:
>>>>>
>>>>>   "The description of Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee for president,
>>>>>   as a '_transformational_ figure' by Mr. Powell ..."
>>>>>
>>>>>   Well, we know who's getting Chomsky's vote!
>>>>>
>>>>>   -Wilson
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