Already use < Spanish ya?

Mark Mandel thnidu at GMAIL.COM
Wed Oct 22 18:11:59 UTC 2008

I don't hear it as odd at all. "I want to X" implies that the speaker
is not yet X-ing, and "already S" implies that S is true, possibly
contrary to expectations. I don't know what's behind the ellipsis, but
it's no long jump from "I'm not yet X-ing" to "You're not X-ing".
Making fun of handicapped people is taboo, but the point here is that
there's (already) at least one handicapped person who it's NOT taboo
to mock, so "You already can."

Mark Mandel

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at> wrote:
> Honduran-Mexican Ned Mencia (aka Carlos Mencia), raised in Los
> Angeles, has a rerun of "Mind of Mencia" tonight "Performance
> Enhanced". The advertisement is (or something close to):
> "I want to make fun of handicapped people...You already can. Our
> president's retarded."
> This "already" sounds odd to me. If it's not common use, it occurred
> to me that maybe it's from Spanish "ya". BB

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