I'd've

[Wilson Gray]

Why is everyone acting as though he's never seen _I'd of_ , etc., in print?

-Wilson

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Herb Stahlke<hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Since "I'd've" and "I'd'a", which is also my usage, is primarily a
> feature of spoken English and spoken English represents only ten
> percent of the BNC, comparing its frequency to that of "abided," which
> is more common in written English, may not give useful results.
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> Herb
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> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Tom Zurinskas<truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks for that.  If I'd've knownn I could've been counting google hits, I'd've done it a long time ago.  Actually I'm an EYE-duh sayer myself.
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>> I wouldn't say "I'd've" is widely used though.  It's rarer than "abided" which has 6 hits out of a database of 100M words in the British national corpus.
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>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>> see truespel.com
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>>> At 8:06 AM +0000 8/3/09, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>>>What's a "raw g-hit"?
>>>
>>> Google hits, the number reported by google in the upper right corner,
>>> without inspection for overlaps and repetitions.
>>>
>>>>How does one evaluate it? Is 137,000 raw g-hits a lot?
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>>> It's significantly more than zero. Hits on the first several pages
>>> all seem genuine, and distinct. This indicates that the contraction
>>> is question is widely used, especially since each search is conducted
>>> on a separate variant.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>One of the lowest frequency words in the British National Corpus of
>>>>100M hits is "abided" with only 6 hits according to
>>>>ftp://ftp.itri.bton.ac.uk/bnc/all.num.o5 How many raw g-hits does
>>>>"abided" get?
>>>
>>> 435,000. You can discover this on your own by clicking on
>>> "www.google.com" and putting in [abided], without the brackets.
>>>
>>> LH
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>>>>see truespel.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> At 2:35 AM +0000 7/31/09, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>>>>>See "I'd've" below. I haven't seen a double apostrophe before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheltered life! I've seen many, in particular involving variants of
>>>>> this one ("she'd've", "they'd've", etc.). There are 137,000 raw
>>>>> g-hits for "I'd've".
>>>>>
>>>>> LH
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have taught a lot of subjects and activities over the years and in
>>>>>>each case had a level of expertise higher than my students. I knew
>>>>>>the subject or sport, was more experienced in it, was able to model
>>>>>>and participate on a level higher than the students. I'd be able to
>>>>>>win a game (Well, I'd've won a few years back. Now I get awfully
>>>>>>tired.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>>>>>>see truespel.com
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