Trivial note on pronunciation: forehead
Tom Zurinskas
truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu Aug 6 21:24:08 UTC 2009
Forrid for forehead? Not in USA I would think. Sounds UK. They do a lot of word squeezing over there, dropping "h" "r" "c" and other sounds and syllables in words. My least favorite is "fat" for "fact".
Down south USA "head" is two syllables in some places. HEY-yud ~heyud, expanding it one syllable. I don't think UK does expansion.
Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
see truespel.com
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> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:46:43 -0400
> From: hwgray at GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: Trivial note on pronunciation: forehead
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> Poster: Wilson Gray
> Subject: Re: Trivial note on pronunciation: forehead
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> Exactly. That's where I learned the pronunciation in the first place.
> Needless to say, we're not the only two people in the English-speaking
> world who learned this rhyme as children. Nevertheless, after people
> learn how to read, many of them switch to the spelling- pronunciation.
> And, if a peron grows up in a 4head-speaking family, it may very well
> be the case that, for such a person, "forrid" does not have a
> real-world referent.
>
> I once discussed this with a 4head-speaker. She argued that "4head'
> has always been the proper pronunciation. The pronunciation "forrid"
> is merely a distortion necessary to make "forehead" rhyme with
> "horrid."
>
> Well, that's a reanalysis of the history of the pronunciations that's
> impossible to refute in a casual conversation.
>
> -Wilson
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Dave Hause wrote:
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>> Why, it must, for the rhyme to work:
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>> There was a little girl
>> Who had a little curl
>> Right in the middle of her forehead.
>> And when she was good,
>> She was very, very good
>> And when she was bad she was horrid.
>>
>> Dave Hause, dwhause at jobe.net
>> Waynesville, MO
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>> From: "Wilson Gray"
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:19 PM
>> Subject: Trivial note on pronunciation: forehead
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>> I notice that "Ducky" (David McCallum) of NCIS properly :-) rhymes
>> "forehead" with "horrid." Of course, he's even older, by four years,
>> than I am.
>> --
>> -Wilson
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