"congressional meat-puppet"..........! (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Mullins, Bill AMRDEC]

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Some time ago (20 years?), I read in an SF anthology a short story about
a future world in which AIDS was so prevalent that all sex was with
condoms, and fertilization was done artificially.  Thrill-seekers would
have "meatsex" -- it may have been illegal.  (analogous to "bareback"
gay sex, I suppose).

And doesn't the Edgar character in the movie "Men In Black" refer to a
normal person as a "meat sack", or something like it?

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> To get back on topic...
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> Another meaty sci-fi putdown is "meatbag" -- as used by the robot
> Bender on the show "Futurama". Discussed by Mark Peters here:
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> http://blog.oup.com/2008/07/futurama/
> The most catchy and common insult debuted in the very first episode
> "Space Pilot 3000," when Fry questions the true shininess of Bender's
> hindquarters, who replies, "Shinier than yours, meatbag." Then in the
> third episode, Bender-ever the thoughtful dinner companion-said,
> "Cheer up, meatbag. You barely touched your amoeba." Much later, in
> "Amazon Women in the Mood", Fry's probable death is pre-mourned by
> Bender ("I'll miss you, meatbag") and Leela ("Me too, meatbag"). In
> the most recent episode, the direct-to-DVD movie The Beast With a
> Billion Backs, Bender uses the word three times, showing his
> diabolical ("Too long have we been slaves to the meatbags!") and
> cuddly ("I love you meatbags") feelings on the subject. And in the
> preview for the next DVD release, Bender's Game, he asks some kids,
> "What you doin', mini-meatbags, shootin' craps?" coining the awesomest
> nickname for kids since house ape.
> Though this meaning is new, meatbag isn't: an OED quote from 1848
> shows it used to mean the tummy region: "Dick was as full of arrows as
> a porkypine: one was sticking right through his cheek, one in his meat
> bag." Meat is the meat of many other Bender-propelled insults,
> including slabs of immaturity that are linked by the word (meatloaf,
> meatball) and the category (pork-pouch, pork pie, sausage link,
> beefball). In Bender's hard drive, human and pig and cattle and
> breakfast are all part of one grossly mammalian family, as we are.
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> > And there is the 1994 SF short story, "They're Made of Meat," by
> Terry
> > Bisson. This was an much-copied story on the internet about ten
years
> ago.
> > Very popular.
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> > http://www.setileague.org/articles/meat.htm
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> > Made into a video:
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaFZTAOb7IE
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> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> >>
> >> So where does the "meat" part come from?
> >
> > It's a pejorative for a human who acts like a puppet. "Meat" = human
> (or
> > human-ish). Cf. "meatspace" vs. "cyberspace".
> >
> > William Gibson used "meat puppet" to mean "a person with a neural
cut
> out
> > chip;
> > the chip allows computer software to completely control their
> actions":
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> > http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=1439
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