"for" = of

[Jonathan Lighter]

I still think it sounds weird.  To (or even "for") me, to "be true for"
means solely "be true in the opinion of," as in New Age-Deconstructo
contexts like, "The Law of Gravity may be true for you, but it isn't true
for me."

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_capitol_for_Kuwait  asks, "What is the
capitol [sic] for Kuwait?"

JL



On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Charles Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:

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> "As is true for many a fanciful story" sounds fine to me (unlike "the voice
> for the president"). Doesn't "(be) true for" have its own idiomatic
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> >2005 James R. Hansen _First Man: The Life of Neil Armstrong_ (N.Y.: Simon
> & Schuster) 428: As is true for many a fanciful story, the stories about
> Apollo 11's UFO "sightings" have a kernel of truth.
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> >JL
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> >On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
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> >> 2009
> >> http://www.badassoftheweek.com/mccool.html: Full texts for the Fenian
> >> Cycle.
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> >> JL
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> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> >> > At 11/3/2009 08:31 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >> > >CNN was discussing White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs this a.m.
> >>  As
> >> > >the anchor described Gibbs (idiomatically) as "the voice of the
> >> > President,"
> >> > >a panel appeared at the bottom of the screen reading, "Voice For the
> >> > >President."
> >> > >
> >> > >The panel remained while Gibbs was being interviewed.
> >> >
> >> > Well, he wouldn't be the Voice Against the President, would he?  :-)
> >> >
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