Eggcorn? "warn" > "worn"

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Feb 10 05:53:25 UTC 2009


In Utah, you say? Well, it gladdens my heart to know that English is
finally beginning to be enunciated properly somewhere beyond the
limits of the greater Saint Louis metropolitan area! :-)

-Wilson
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All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net> wrote:
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> I haven't read the full article, but there's probably more on this topic in
> David Bowie's spring 2008 American Speech article on the 'cord/card merger'
> in Utah. (Or for the more scatologically minded, the 'fort/fart' merger.)
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> Neal
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>> And the ones who visit the Saint Louis Zoo in "Farest Pork." My
>> high-school Latin teacher, who was from Omaha, used to claim that that
>> was the way that we talked. Ridiculous! We said "Farest *Park*."
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>> I've noticed that there are speakers who, to my ear, strangely don't
>> distinguish between "war" and "wore."  OTOH, I don't distinguish
>> between "Worf" and "wharf."
>>
>> -Wilson
>> â?"â?"â?"
>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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>> -Mark Twain
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>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at wmich.edu>
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>>> I'd imagine the warn/worn distinction, for those who have it, would
>>> be parallel to things like horse/hoarse--going back to an old /Or/:/
>>> o:r/ distinction.  The possibility of a distinction shown in OED is a
>>> relic of that--in really old fashioned British Received
>>> Pronunciation, you would get /wO:n/ vs. /wO at n/, but most people born
>>> after Winston Churchill wouldn't have that.  I'd suspect it survives
>>> nicely in the American South--or at least many parts of it.  Wouldn't
>>> a pronunciation of warn with /A/ be possible in St. Louis, and a few
>>> other Midland areas, incl. the ones where people are "barn in the born"?
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>>> Paul Johnston
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