All 40 USA English phonemes (Was Re: Eggcorn? "warn" > "worn")

[Tom Zurinskas]

The front or velar n and back or alveolar n are just allophones of one another.  If you need a rule it's that n before k or g in the same syllable is velar otherwise alveolar.  Regarding the full or suppressed "g" in "ng" I'd also say allophones of "g".  It can vary with suffexes.  "Singin' in the rain" has "sing" with a strong "g".  Perhaps "singer" has a week g perhaps looking toward "er".  I believe the mouth says a phoneme primarily in anticipation of phonemes to come.

For "hung" the "g" can be suppressed at the end of a sentence (It is hung.)  But for (It's hung on a nail) the "g" becomes full as a lead in to "on".


Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:13:58 -0500
> From: mcovarru at PURDUE.EDU
> Subject: Re: All 40 USA English phonemes (Was Re: Eggcorn? "warn"> "worn")
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> Poster: M Covarrubias
> Subject: Re: All 40 USA English phonemes (Was Re: Eggcorn? "warn">
> "worn")
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> On Feb 13, 2009, at 5:36 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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>> "Son/sun" have the same vowel as "sung" ~sun/~sung as I hear in m-
>> w.com
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>
> it follows that the difference is not in the vowel but in the final
> consonant.
>
> the first vowel in "hanger" is the same as the vowel in "anger" but
> the first has a voiced velar stop after the velar nasal and the second
> does not. you're system cannot capture this difference. if you're ok
> with that then good luck with it.
>
> you're not looking for accuracy, you seem to be looking for ease and
> convenience. your system is certainly easy because it tolerates a very
> sloppy analysis of what sounds actually occur in english. all the
> problematic examples that have been posted are evidence of this.
>
> it's fine that you're happy with a notation system that gets "close
> enough" to an accurate representation. your standards are your own to
> live with. but it does no good for those transcriptions that require
> linguists to make consequential distinctions in pronunciation. the
> convenience of a qwerty keyboard isn't all that tempting when
> precision is more highly valued.
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