relative "that" again

[Herb Stahlke]

Sorry.  I should have included those.

Huddleston, Rodney, and Pullum,Geoffrey K.  2002.  The Cambridge
grammar of the English language.  Cambridge:  Cambridge University
Press.  Pp. 1056-7

Jespersen, Otto.  1961 (1927).  "Relative that."  In A modern English
grammar on historical principles, Part III: Syntax, Second Volume.
London:  George Allen and Unwin, Ltd.  Pp.153-168.

Stahlke, Herbert F. W.  1976.  Which that.  Language 52.3:584-611.

Herb


On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mark Mandel <thnidu at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Several weeks ago we had a lengthy discussion on the ATEG list
>> (Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar, a group within NCTE) on
>> whether "that" in relative clauses like
>>
>> The guy that you met at the airport...
>>
>> is a pronoun or simply the same subordinating conjunstion as in a content
>> clause
>>
>> I know that you met the guy at the airport.
>>
>> I argued, drawing on Jespersen, my own Language paper (1976), and a
>> more thorough discussion in Huddleston&Pullum, that it's simply a
>> subordinator, and I think the case is overwhelming, with almost no
>> evidence to the contrary.
>
>
> Can you please give full citations for these refs? I'm not challenging them,
> I'd just like to be able to see them.
>
> m a m
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