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[Barbara Need]

I am not a native of Massachusetts, but i lived north of Boston for
nine years from 9.5. I never heard anyone up in Essex county who
sounded like Barbara Walters--and no one ever pronounced my first name
the way she is stereotyped as saying hers. (I remember people in my
neck of the woods making fun of her!)

Barbara

Barbara Need

P.S. That I never acquired a Northshore accent was a conscious
decision on my part. I thought the non-rhoticity and linking-R ugly,
and I resented being told by my spelling teacher that I had
mispronounced _aunt_ ([Ant] where [A] is ash). B

On 22 Feb 2009, at 11:54 PM, Paul Johnston wrote:

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> Comments from natives of Massachusetts are appreciated here, but
> impressionistically, her most salient feature, the lip /r/, is
> probably a dialect feature in Worcester, MA, where she originally
> comes from, and I've heard it from a number of people from west of
> Boston myself, as well as a number of obviously local contractors on
> New England-based programs like This Old House, and the late Sen. and
> ex-Presidential candidate Paul Tsongas (from Lowell, MA).  ( Not a
> scientific sample, I know--and I'd love to know the distribution of
> this feature.  It's not in Providence, RI.)  Otherwise, I hear a
> mixture of New York City and New England features, particularly in
> her vowel system.
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> Paul Johnston
> On Feb 22, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Alison Murie wrote:
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>> On Feb 22, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Paul Johnston wrote:
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>>> Tom,
>>> That;'s because all the local Standards are 95% similar (I'd put
>>> it a
>>> little less, but not much) on a phonemic basis. Most of the
>>> differences are on the sub-phonemic level.  The consonant systems,
>>> phonemically, are nearly identical all over the US, for instance.
>>> The vowel systems do differ phonemically, but not much with this
>>> kind
>>> of variety--your "awe-dropping", rhoticity vs. non-rhoticity (only a
>>> few non-rhotic or, more likely, variably rhotic newscasters, but
>>> those that are, Walters, King etc. are known for it) .  Some lexical
>>> incidence differences appear in individual words, though this is the
>>> stuff that the pronunciation guides concentrate on.  I'll give you
>>> actual stats when I'm finished if you want to see them.  You'll be
>>> surprised.
>>>
>>> Paul Johnston
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>> Walters?  I've lived most of my life out of range of her voice, but
>> the few times I have heard it  I have assumed her speech to be
>> completely idiosyncratic, largely attributable to a speech
>> impediment,
>> not a dialect.
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