Correction: unrounded [u] versus "barred-i"

[Wilson Gray]

Thanks. WRT to Russian, [barred-i] and [y] are typically used to
represent its high, back, unrounded [u], historically and, according
to some generative phonologists, underlyingly, a long /u/. But, IIRC,
no one has claimed IPA-equivalence or even general phonetic exactitude
for either of these representations. It's usually just a matter of
typographical convenience for whoever is writing or printing the text.

IAC, the local pronunciation of Worcester is a little unexpected. In
like manner, my PA in-laws always get a laugh out of my
Saint-Louis-ized  pronunciation of the Wilkes-Barre borough of Forty
Fort as "Farty Fart." (The name commemorates the fact that, back in
the day, forty colonists built a fort there.)

-Wilson
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:55 PM,  <RonButters at aol.com> wrote:
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> I should have written:
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> Â Well, [u] is a high back vowel, whereas "barred-i" is usually used to
> indicate a high CENTRAL vowel.
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> In a message dated 2/25/09 12:54:47 PM, RonButters at AOL.COM writes:
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>> Well, [u] is a high back vowel, whereas "barred-i" is usually used to
>> indicate a high mid vowel.
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