pron. of just

[Tom Zurinskas]

The IPA notation that I see at the IPA site has schwa for many sounds.  See the foespeleeng of International Phonetic Association.

http://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/IPA/ipa.html

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:25:03 -0500
> From: RonButters at AOL.COM
> Subject: Re: Re: [ADS-L] pron. of just
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> Randy appears be confusing phonemics and phonetics, as do many nonlinguists.=
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> Schwa "stands for a range of sounds" only in the sense that in some phonemic=
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> representations of English, it is used to symbolize all unstressed vowels--i=
> n=20
> the same way that, say, /i/ "stands for a range of sounds" in SOME=20
> phonemicizations of English ranging from realizations with a very strong off=
> glide to those=20
> with a pure long vowel. In other phonemicizations of English, [i] stands for=
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> the sound in "bit" and "beat" would be phonemicized as /biyt/.
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> It appears to me that Matt is talking about the standard Ineternational=20
> Phonetic Alphabet, in which schwa is indeed assigned a unique place in the o=
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> scheme of things: a mid-central unrounded vowel."
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> In a message dated 2/28/09 10:04:20 AM, strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM writes:
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>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Matthew Gordon =20
>> wrote:
>>> I suppose that like Humpty Dumpty you're free to have words mean just wh=
> at
>>> you choose them to mean, but in phonetics schwa is the name of a=20
>> particular
>>> symbol that describes one particular sound and this is how M-W use it in
>>> their notation.
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>> I've never read anything that said schwa stood for one particular
>> sound.=A0 Everything I've seen about it either describes it as a range
>> of sounds; unless you count its designation as a mid-central unrounded
>> vowel.=A0 Pullum & Laduslaw's Phonetic Symbol Guide (p48) says it is
>> "used for a range of distinguishable non-peripheral vowels for which
>> other symbols could also be used".
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