"War is Hell"
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jan 16 02:00:12 UTC 2009
I understand that this is of no particular value, but, according to a
biography of Sherman from some time in the last century, of which I
have no other memory, what he actually said was something like,
"There are those fools who reckon war a glorious and heroic
undertaking. But I have seen war, and it is hell."
Or something more-or-less to that effect.
-Wilson
–––
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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-Mark Twain
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Baker, John <JMB at stradley.com> wrote:
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> Google Books has this example, which pushes the attribution to
> Napoleon back to 1835, or at any rate to 1854. This is from an essay on
> the life of the Rev. Charles Brooks, of Massachusetts (1795- ), in
> John Livingston, Portraits of Eminent Americans Now Living 483 (1854):
>
> <<In 1835, he published his views of war and the means of
> preventing it. His statement was this--". . . . Bonaparte said,--'War
> is hell.' It surely is a suspension of the laws of God.">>
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> The text doesn't seem to give any further indication of where
> and how Brooks published his views in 1835. Incidentally, what Brooks
> sought was a high Court of Nations to resolve disputes.
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>
> Google Books also has an 1850 example, not referring to
> Napoleon, in George McHenry, The Helleniad, An Epic Poem 66 (1850):
>
> <<Preferring hell to heaven: for war is hell,
> And peace is heaven even in this world.>>
>
>
> John Baker
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> FWIW, I have found no online evidence that Napoleon Bonaparte ever wrote
> or said the words, "La guerre, c'est l'infer."
>
> Ah, well; as one might have expected.
>
> JL
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