Pronuncations

Scot LaFaive slafaive at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jan 16 03:20:29 UTC 2009


Today I heard someone say "Ah-dit" for "audit" instead of "Awe-dit"....I
nearly stabbed them in the eye out of rage for destoying my beautiful static
language. Burn the heathens!!

Scot



On 1/15/09, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I was taught in grammar school that the "t" in "often" was silent.  So I've
> never said the "t" since.  Would that the teachers in our schools be so
> inclined to correct the "awe-droppers" and keep them from eliminating that
> phoneme from existence.
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> The latest awe-drop is "inaugeration" which in m-w.com is spoken
> in-naw-gyer-RAY-shin  ~inaugyerraeshin   being said in news media as
> in-nog-ger-RAY-shin  ~inaagerraeshin.   If they served egg nog, it would be
> an egg noggeration.
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> > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:25:10 +0000
> > From: djh514 at YORK.AC.UK
> > Subject: Re: Pronuncations
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> > Poster: Damien Hall
> > Subject: Re: Pronuncations
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> > Received from the Linguistic Anthropology (LINGANTH) list today:
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> > On Jan 15 2009, Robert Lawless wrote:
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> >>For all you guys who teach college-age students and (if you're
> >>listening) hear them talk: Is the pronunciation of often with "t"
> >>becoming more common with the younger generation? (I think most of us
> >>old foggies don't pronounce the "t".) I believe linguists refer to this
> >>as "spelling pronunciation." I suppose then that pronouncing sophomore
> >>as two syllables would be anti-spelling pronunciation. Although I and
> >>most of my colleagues pronounce it with three syllables, seemingly all
> >>the sophmores here use only two syllables. (My daughter, who's a
> >>sophmore in high school corrected me the other day when I called her a
> >>sophomore.)
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> > I don't know about these points, but maybe somebody here on the American
> > Dialect Society list has some intuition from their own students, or knows
> > about the history of the pronunciations of these two words? For myself:
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> > - I think I (M, 34, but British, not American) usually pronounce 'often'
> > with no /t/
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> > - I have no native intuition about 'sophomore', since it's not a word
> that
> > most Brits know; myself, I had come across it but had no idea of what it
> > meant exactly, apart from knowing that it referred to one or several
> years
> > in education, until I came to the US. FYI, in British Universities the
> > years are just referred to by their ordinal numbers, except that in some
> > places the people in their last year are called Finalists (because that's
> > when their Final Exams are). We split the secondary years differently
> from
> > Americans, so that you enter secondary school at 11 and can leave at 16
> or
> > 18, but there's no necessary break between those ages; the second year of
> > that process, when pupils are 12-13 years old, is, again, just called the
> > Second Year.
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> > Replies, I suppose, to Robert directly, and maybe copied to this list.
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> > Damien
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