"in phonetics"
Scot LaFaive
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Fri Jul 10 14:35:31 UTC 2009
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> "Golf," e.g. is theoretically supposed to be pronounced like "gulf."
I believe that's the way it is for me.
Scot
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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> Wackipedia has a fascinating discussion at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet#Pronunciation
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> Scroll down esp. to "Pronunciation." "Golf," e.g. is theoretically
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> JL
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> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Bill Palmer <w_a_palmer at bellsouth.net
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> > Wilson,
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> > To the best of my knowledge "Alfa" still represents A in military
> > "phonetics". Has remained the same since 1956, when it changed,
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> > to facilitate pronunciation by members of various NATO countries' armed
> > forces. In the changeover from the old "Abel, Baker, Charlie..." form,
> > three survived: Charlie, Mike, & Victor
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> > > I wonder why _A_ is such a problem? "Abel" in WWII, "alfa" during my
> > > military service, now "adam." And there's "bravo" vs. "baker." But
> > > "charlie" appears to be money.
> > >
> > > -Wilson
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> > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Arnold Zwicky<zwicky at stanford.edu>
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> > >> a little while ago, on an episode of NCIS, Special Agent Gibbs (played
> > >> by Mark Harman), annoyed when people failed to understand some proper
> > >> names, exhorted everyone to say the names "in phonetics" -- by which
> > >> he meant that they should use what's known in some circles (especially
> > >> military ones) as a "phonetic alphabet". =C2 the technical term for
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> > >> is "spelling alphabet", but you can see why no one would want to say
> > >> that you should use "spelling".
> > >>
> > >> a spelling alphabet is a kind of code for the letters of the alphabet,
> > >> in which each letter is represented by a word beginning with that
> > >> letter: Adam, Bravo, Charlie,...; Abel, Baker, Charlie,...
> > >>
> > >> the wikipedia entry gives a number of spelling alphabets, for english
> > >> and a number of other languages:
> > >> =C2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_alphabet
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> > >> i didn't find "phonetic alphabet" (in this sense) under either
> > >> "phonetic" or "alphabet" in the OED. =C2 or "spelling alphabet" under
> > >> either "spelling" or "alphabet".
> > >>
> > >> arnold
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