frienemies, to bogart

Arnold Zwicky zwicky at STANFORD.EDU
Mon Jul 13 13:47:43 UTC 2009


meant for the whole newsgroup:

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Arnold Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>
> Date: July 13, 2009 6:45:17 AM PDT
> To: JJJRLandau at netscape.com
> Subject: Re: frienemies
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 5:42 AM, James A. Landau
> <JJJRLandau at netscape.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On NPR this morning there was a report on the Tour de France
>> bicycle race, in which the correspondent was reporting on the
>> relationship between Lance Armstrong and one of his team-mates,
>> whose name I did not catch.  The correspondent said that the two
>> were "frienemies", meaning something to the effect that they were
>> both friends and enemies, with the prediction that as the race went
>> on they would become less friends and more enemies.
>>
>> Nonce usage?  Or well-established?  Or what?
>
> established enough to make it into the OED (draft entry of December
> 2008), in a "frenemy" entry (with "frienemy" as an alternative
> spelling).
>
> also a wikipedia entry:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenemy
>
>> OT:  the sometimes-inscrutable Wilson Gray wrote:
>>
>>> Though I post questions in English, I throw in words and phrases
>>> from
>>> the local minority language, instead of using French, Spanish, or
>>> whatever, so as not to appear to be bogarting them by using English
>>> and to show them that I'm down with their attempt to keep their
>>> government from wiping out their language in the name of "national
>>> unity."
>>
>> Pardon my ignorance (the only Bogart movie I've ever seen is
>> "Casablanca"), but "bogarting"?
>
> also in the OED (draft entry of June 2005) and in HDAS, with two
> senses: (mostly AAVE) 'force, coerce'; 'hog' (esp. a joint), as in
> the song "Don't Bogart Me" ("Don't bogart that joint, my friend").
> we had a fairly long discussion of "to bogart" here on ADS-L in
> April 1999, in which a third sense, 'slobber on' (a cigarette), was
> reported.
>
> arnold
>
>

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