Ahra-lessnes in white-Southern speech (UNCLASSIFIED)

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jun 15 18:17:36 UTC 2009


Actually, my point is the opposite. The r-lessness in "gum-mint" was
the exception. All the Southern people interviewed, from the Greater
Louisville Area to the Dothen-Hunstville regions _used_ "r." I was
listening for the good old-fashioned, ahra-less, stereotypical,
Southern drawl and I didn't hear it.

Essentially, I'm just casually wondering whether that dialect is dying
out or whether Kentucky and Deep-Northern Alabama are simply not the
parts of the South where r-lessness is (stereo)typical.

-Wilson

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Mullins, Bill
AMRDEC<Bill.Mullins at us.army.mil> wrote:
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> Can you give some specific example words beyond "gummint" in which this might be seen? Â I live in Huntsville, and might recognize some of this speech.
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> If I look through the text of the email below, the following pronunciations wouldn't sound odd to my ear:
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> Ah-meh-kihn (American)
> Suthun (southern)
> Nor-thun-ners (northerners)
> Wheh-thuh (weather)
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> Bill
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>> Are there any white-Southern speakers left who *don't* use [r] in all
>> the places where Northerners do? I watched a Weather Channel show on
>> the Great Tornado Season of '74. Many ordinary white folk from
>> Kentucky and Alabama were interviewed WRT their memories of that
>> season. Only one speaker, from around Dothan and Huntsville, Alabama,
>> failed to use [r] and that was in only one word: *government*, which
>> he pronounced as approximately "gum mint" [g^m mI at nt].
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>> They all used what black speakers usually characterize as the
>> "hillbilly" dialect. The "Southern" dialect is the ahra-less one
>> usually attempted nowadays only by Northern actors attempting to
>> portray Southern-speakers.
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>> Is BE the only r-less AmE dialect left with a number of speakers large
>> enough to bother to count?
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>> -Wilson
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>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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-Wilson
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All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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-Mark Twain

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