Double passives (was Re: "long" and "short" vowels)

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jun 20 19:44:00 UTC 2009


Thank goodness that someone has finally chosen to attempt to deal with
this hideous lacuna in the grammar of English!

-Wilson

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Neal Whitman<nwhitman at ameritech.net> wrote:
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> On Jun 20, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
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>>> [1] Are any of these projects still going on, or has all the funding
>>> finally dried up for them?
>>>
>>> [2] I can't think up an elegant passive construction for this. Weird.
>>>
>> Maybe Arnold can direct us to something on Language Log on this.
>> I've noticed the same gap, largely through attempts by students to
>> fill it ("The chimpanzees were tried to teach/taught/be taught
>> American Sign Language") without striking success.
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>> LH
> I've blogged a lot about these "double passives". They occur in
> Turkish and some Scandinavian languages, too.
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> http://literalminded.wordpress.com/category/syntax/passive-voice/double-passives/
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> Neal Whitman
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