Oldest words in English?

Baker, John JMB at STRADLEY.COM
Sun Mar 1 19:04:45 UTC 2009


        I'm doubtful that tin has been known long enough to be from a
pre-Indo-European substrate.  Wikipedia says it was used in bronze by
3500 BC, but I doubt if it's much older than that, and I assume that
words from a pre-Indo-European substrate would have to be quite a bit
older.  Apples, badness, and gold, of course, do have the requisite
antiquity, but when one part of a claim is demolished, I tend to look
askance at its remaining parts.


John Baker


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If you're like me, you have in front of you a copy of Norris McWhirter's
_Guinness Book of World Records: New! Giant 1980 Super-Edition!_, and
you're looking at p. 207, which states:

"Some as yet unpublished research indicates some words of a
pre-Indo-European substrate survive in English, including apple (apal),
bad (bad), gold (gol), and tin (tin)."

Comments?

JL

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