velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday

[Tom Zurinskas]

Truespel marks primary stress.  Which stresssed syllables were not marked?



Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:16:20 -0500
> From: hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> Sender: American Dialect Society
> Poster: Herb Stahlke
> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
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> Following Tom's convention for marking a stressed syllable, I count
> five syllables marked for stress in the entire truespel text below.
> That's out of about 35 syllables that could reasonably be stressed,
> many of which would be stressed in anyone's pronunciation. Why such
> limited marking of stress?
>
> Herb
>
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Alison Murie wrote:
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>> Poster: Alison Murie
>> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
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>> I must assume that you preface each sentence with the ordinary English
>> spelling because you know that most people won't be able to read the
>> rather odd language that truespel apparently represents. That rather
>> suggests that its vaunted transparency has been overstated.
>> AM
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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>>> Sender: American Dialect Society
>>> Poster: Tom Zurinskas
>>> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
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>>> ~! indicates my accent (at start and finish)
>>>
>>> Tom, why don't you post using truespel
>>> ~!Taam, Wie doent yue poest yuezeeng truespel~!
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure thing. I also would like to find a phonetic converter for IPA
>>> to show a comparison. Note that all accents vary.
>>>
>>> ~!Sher thheeng. Ie aulsoe wood liek tue fiend u funnedik kunvverter
>>> for IPA tue shoe u kumppairisin. Noet that aul aksents vairee.~!
>>>
>>> Basically if you run your finger along the phonemes and speak them,
>>> you are speaking as I speak.
>>> ~!Basiklee if yue run yer feenger ullaung thu foeneemz and speek
>>> them, yue aar speekeeng az Ie speek.~!
>>>
>>> Note that stress is on the first syllable or after a double consonant.
>>> ~!Noet that stres iz aan thu ferst silubool or after u dubool
>>> kaansunint.~!
>>>
>>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>>> see truespel.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:45:48 -0500
>>>> From: sagehen7470 at ATT.NET
>>>> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
>>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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>>>> Sender: American Dialect Society
>>>> Poster: Alison Murie
>>>> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
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>>>> Tom, why don't you post using truespel?
>>>> AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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>>>>> Poster: Tom Zurinskas
>>>>> Subject: Re: velarized /l/ and Billy Holiday
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>>>>> I forgot Herb. Books are right and people are wrong. Thanks for
>>>>> the insight.
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