Many schwas
Herb Stahlke
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Tue Mar 24 21:24:36 UTC 2009
"hoppy-horse": Do we have a new eggcorn?
Herb
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Grant. Of course from my perspective (starting with present letter-sound relationships) it matters not if there were others before that agreed or disagreed with me. Pronunciation changes. It's just a matter of calling them as you hear them.
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> I'm more than hoppy-horse interested after dedicating myself to rewriting the English language and writing four books analyzing it, and I can witness that schwa represents many sounds as I heard words pronounced in talking dictionaries and hear them now.
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> In order to stay away from special symbols, I converted schwas into the phonemes they best represent. Often a close call. See the converter at truespel.com for the result.
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> The databases in the truespel books are available for researchers.
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> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> see truespel.com
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>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:34:01 -0500
>> From: gbarrett at WORLDNEWYORK.ORG
>> Subject: Many schwas
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>> Poster: Grant Barrett
>> Subject: Many schwas
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>> On Feb 16, 2009, at 13:29, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>> What amazes me is that folks call these two n's different phonemes
>>> and yet they think schwa is one phoneme when it is in reality many.
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>> I hesitate to encourage you, Tom, given your oft-ridden pronunciation,
>> hobby horses, but I feel compelled to say that, having spent some time
>> recently with the Century Dictionary, I find that the pronunciation
>> editors there also believed that there were many schwa sounds.
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>> The Century Dictionary (first published in 1889, last revised in 1911,
>> and last published in 1914) pronunciations are given using a system of
>> the editor's own devising. The key contains the following types of
>> schwa sounds:
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>> a with a macron above and a dot below: prelate, captain, courage, adage
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>> e with a macron above and a dot below: episcopal, abnegate, aggregate
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>> o with a macron above and a dot below: abrogate, eulogy, democrat
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>> u with a macron above and a dot below: singular, education.
>> accumulate, accentuate
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>> a with two dots below: aback, abandon, errant, republican
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>> e with two dots below: absent, abstinent, absorbent, prudent, difference
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>> i with two dots below: charity, density
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>> o with two dots below: abandon, ablution, valor, actor, idiot
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>> a with dieresis and two dots below: Persia, peninsula
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>> e with macron and two dots below: ("as in _the_ [/thuh/] book") jack-
>> in-the-box, nevertheless, stick-in-the-mud
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>> u with macron and two dots below: acupressure, adventure, nature,
>> feature
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>> Grant Barrett
>> gbarrett at worldnewyork.org
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