"daguerreotype" from 1830?

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Tue Mar 31 03:15:12 UTC 2009


Thanks, Fred.  I didn't remember in this instance (or if I had
r4emembered, I wouldn't have relished the small print!) to check
other evidence on the page.  And you've saved me a trip to the
Widener newspaper film room.

(The 1839 is early enough from this side of the water to be of
interest, I think [and there are some others within the next several
months] -- although presumably it would be discovered in a routine
search at the appropriate time by the OED galley slaves.)

Joel

At 3/30/2009 10:01 PM, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
>Joel,
>
>This is clearly some kind of misdating or mixing up some other
>Providence newspaper with the Microcosm.  Internal evidence on the
>page points to an 1854 dating.  When a word-dating seems too early
>to be true, it is usually not true.
>
>Fred Shapiro
>
>
>
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>Joel S. Berson [Berson at ATT.NET]
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>Subject: "daguerreotype" from 1830?
>
>1)   Any information about the following, which either is spurious or
>antedates the OED -- and the object itself -- by 9 years?  I had
>thought it simply a mistranscription of 1830 for 1839 or 1840. But
>Harvard holds this journal (Newspaper Film NB 1529), and tells me it
>ceased in 1830.  So the date may be correct.  If so, what would a
>"specimen" to be examined in a "Daguerreotype room" be?
>
>19th Century U.S. Newspapers.
>The Microcosm, (Providence, RI) Friday, June 04, 1830; col A
>       Multiple Classified Advertisements
>I did not see a page number, either in the description or on the page image]
>
>L. WRIGHTS'S DAGUERREOTYPE ROOMS---J. B. Read's new brick block, Main
>street; Ladies and Gentlemen are invited to call and examine specimens.
>
>The next instance is a plausible 1839 August 26, from The North American.
>
>
>2)   An early appearance in the New World?  Or is this too, a "crayon
>daguerreotype", perhaps not the genuine article?
>
>Access Newspaper Archive [as it calls itself; the first time I've
>seen this available via the NE Hist. Genealogical Soc.]
>
>(Question: Is there some way to sort its results by date?)
>
>Milwaukee Sentinel and Gazette
>1839 April 8
>[page 2, col. 7]
>"Daguerreotype as taken Root of Philadelphia and pictures of tho same
>person will bo taken Cur all who these Stock aud Apparatus for
>country ors Instructions given in BROWN'S No 156 East Sth WAREHOUSE
>East Water Street Milwaukee"
>
>:-)  Apologies -- I can do better from the PDF:
>The Crayon Daguerreotype, as taken by Root of Philadelphia, and two
>or more pictures of the same person on he same plate, will be taken
>for all who prefer these oddities in the picture line
>
>Joel
>
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