spelling pronunciation

[Tom Zurinskas]

Thanks for the correction.  So "eye dialect" is a term describing a "spelling" which portrays a certain dialect or accent (as wikipedia says).  So why not call it "dialect spelling" or aksentspel. "Eye dialect" doesn't work.

What made sense to me was tht "eye dialect" meant that you saw a word and pronounced it as you saw it.  That way would put the "t" into "often".  The term "spelling pronunciation" covers that, or as I say "spelnountseeng" to give it a verb form.

Not only does the term "eye dialect" work intuitively for me as defined by wikipedia, it doesn't even work for the wikipedia definition because that definition covers accent spelling as well as dialect spelling.  A foreign accent is not a dialect.

So we're talking about a "spelling" (e.g. "dis is duh vay") and it includes spelling foreign accents.  So "akcentspeleeng" is a better term.  It also has a verb form.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
see truespel.com



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> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 00:12:50 -0400
> From: laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
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> At 3:23 AM +0000 5/4/09, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>>>From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_pronunciation
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>>A "spelling pronunciation" is a pronunciation
>>that, instead of reflecting the way the word was
>>pronounced by previous generations of speakers,
>>is a rendering in sound of the word's spelling.
>>Spelling pronunciations compete, often
>>effectively, with the older traditional
>>pronunciation.
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>>I've heard this called "eye dialect". The
>>problem is that for both terms there is no easy
>>way to verbify them.
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> I doubt you've heard it called that. What you've
> more likely heard called "eye dialect" is the
> non-standard spelling of words to reflect how
> they're pronounced (e.g. "wuz", "luv"), which is
> something like the opposite of spelling
> pronunciation. (You can find this at wikipedia
> too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_dialect)
> Except that eye dialect is a literary technique
> typically designed to imply ignorance on the part
> of the speaker represented, whereas spelling
> pronunciation is something that ordinary
> (including non-literary) people do based on an
> assumption that a given word really is pronounced
> the way it's spelled.
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> "Spelnountseeng" may represent spelling
> pronunciation or it may represent eye dialect,
> but if it represents both it's a homonym.
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>>I've called this "spelnountseeng". The Verb form is to spelnounts.
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>>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>>see truespel.com
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