Heard on MSNBC

[Margaret Lee]

Also as in "the good, the bad, and the ugly."
 
--Margaret Lee
 
> Obviously "the" + adjective is a common construction
> that's
> > > >> been around a long time as in "The difficult is done at once; the
> > > >> impossible takes a little longer."  It's this derisive or ironic use
> > > >> of the construction that feels new.
> > > >>
> > > >> Herb


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--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Kari Castor <castor.kari at GMAIL.COM> wrote:


From: Kari Castor <castor.kari at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Heard on MSNBC
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 7:19 AM


Sorry for the multiple posts here; if I were smart I would just save drafts
of the emails until I was sure I was quite finished.
Anyhow, if I had to venture a guess, I would say that the construction in
question is related closely to "teh."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teh




On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Kari Castor <castor.kari at gmail.com> wrote:

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> There's also things like "the sex," where "the" is something like an
> intensifier:
> Wolverine is the sex = Wolverine is very sexy
>
>
> But "the sex" can also be used to indicate general awesomeness:
> This cake is the sex = This cake is delicious.
>
> Although there is typically some sense of the erotic or sensual even in the
> "generally awesome" usage.
>
>
> I should also mention perhaps that the social circles I typically run in
> belong to the broadly-defined "geek" subculture.  Lexicon is strongly
> influenced by the internet, gaming, computers in general, sci-fi and
> fantasy, comics, etc.
>
> I can't really say whether this construction of "the + noun" is as common
> outside of these circles.
>
>
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> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Kari Castor <castor.kari at gmail.com>
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> > Definitely.
> > I'm mid-20s.  The vast majority of people whom I've heard use that
> > construction are probably under 30.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
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> > > I'm guessing that you're a bit younger than I am.  Is this a
> > > generational or an age-graded usage?
> > >
> > > Herb
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Kari Castor <castor.kari at gmail.com>
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> > > > I don't know about the relative newness, but it's quite a common
> usage
> > > among
> > > > the people I know.
> > > > the hiv (for this type of usage, HIV is typically pronounced
> > > phonetically,
> > > > not spelled out) - as in, "Don't touch Paris Hilton; you'll get the
> > hiv."
> > > > the stupid - as in, "That guy has a bad case of the stupid."
> > > > the ugly - as in, "Lucky that kid didn't catch the ugly from his
> > > parents."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > >> Subject:      Heard on MSNBC
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> > > >>
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> > > >>
> > > >> Rachel Maddow frequently uses the phrase "the gay" derisively of
> > > >> people, usually conservative Republicans, who think homosexuality is
> > > >> an acquired behavior.  This evening Keith Olberman used "the funny"
> in
> > > >> a similar way when talking about whether Obama would be humorous at
> > > >> the Correspondents' Dinner.  Is this use of "the" + adjective a new
> > > >> pattern?  > > > >>
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