Big Apples and Red Herrings

[Jesse Sheidlower]

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:34:56PM -0400, Benjamin Zimmer wrote:
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:14 PM, George Thompson wrote:
>
> > What to make of this?
> >
> > POMONA'S LAST AND LARGEST.  [14 1/2 inches around; grown by Thomas
> > Gardner of Paramus]]  It was a "big apple."
> > N-Y Commercial Advertiser, September 4, 1848, p. 2, col. 3
> >
> > Doubtless no connection with our favorite "Big Apple", but why the quotation
> > marks?  Were "scare quotes" -- I believe they have been called that here,
> > I've never known a name for them -- in use 160 years ago?  I've the
> > impression that they are more recent.  Are the "" just meant to emphasize the
> > words?  "It was one hell of a big apple."
> > But if they are there to call attention to an allusion or catch-phrase, then
> > maybe there is some connection. . . ?
>
> Possibly alluding to idiomatic "big apple" expressions then floating around,
> like "to bet a big apple" ('to state with supreme assurance; to be absolutely
> confident of'), dated by OED3 to 1847.

...and with almost all its material taken from the research of
Barry Popik.

Jesse Sheidlower
OED

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