% of English words from Latin and Greek
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Wed Nov 4 19:50:17 UTC 2009
At 8:39 PM +0100 11/4/09, Stephen Gmail wrote:
>This is digging up very old and unreliable
>memories, but I believe I read at some point
>that about 50 percent of English vocabulary was
>Latinate in origin (including all those French
>words the Normans introduced) and 45 percent
>Anglo-Saxon in origin, while only about 5
>percent came from third languages. Although the
>Anglo-Saxon words were older and were very hard
>to replace with later Latinate/French words, the
>latter normally taking more nuanced meanings
>rather than directly replacing the Anglo-Saxon
>word, the greater Latinate percentage was
>explained by the greater ease of forming new
>words by recombining other words and particles.
>Many - most? - Greek words would have been
>included in the Latinate bunch, I think, having
>been filtered through Latin before reaching
>English, but I'm guessing here. I don't know if
>the old Norse, Dutch, and modern German words
>English absorbed would have been included in the
>Anglo-Saxon group, but I imagine they would.
>That would leave languages like Yiddish (only a
>Germanic half-brother), Hindi, Tahitian, the
>Native American languages, etc.,
Arabic is a non-negligible part of that "etc.",
as I discovered in teaching an intro Words class.
Also, I imagine the fractions will shift
depending on what counts as "English
vocabulary"--for example, if we're doing a type
count from a dictionary, how large a dictionary?
Obviously, the fatter the dictionary, the bigger
the Latinate (or Latinate + Greekate) proportion
of roots...
> to make up the remaining 5 percent.
>
>Best,
>
>Stephen Hughes
>
>
>El 04/11/2009, a las 0:04, Wilson Gray escribió:
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>>>If I recall correctly, I once read=A0that about 60 percent of English words=
>>>come from Latin, and about 20 percent from Greek.=A0Many years ago, I used=
>>>to teach a course called Vocabulary Development, and I think this was in o=
>>>ne of the course textbooks at the time.=20
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>>>Margaret Lee
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>>>From: David A. Daniel <dad at POKERWIZ.COM>
>>>Subject: Re: % of English words from Latin and Greek
>>>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>>Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:33 PM
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>>>It's all Greek to me.
>>>:)
>>>
>>Well, as a Greek friend of mine liked to say,
>>"It's all mathematics to me." ;-)
>>
>>-Wilson
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>>>Subject: % of English words from Latin and Greek
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>>>This may be an impossible question, but does anyone have any idea
>>>(even rough) as to what percentage of English words came directly from
>>>Greek and what percentage directly from Latin? Complicating things, of
>>>course, is that many Latin words derived from Greek forms.
>>>
>>>Mike Sheehan
>>>wordmall at aol.com
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