Portuguese language changes
Tom Zurinskas
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Thu Oct 8 01:42:58 UTC 2009
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diaeresis has two pronunciations
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in UK die-AIR-ih-sis ~die"airisis
in USA die-uh-REE-sis ~die'urreesis
as per thefreedictionary.com
Tom Zurinskas=2C USA - CT20=2C TN3=2C NJ33=2C FL7+
see truespel.com phonetic spelling
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> Poster: Laurence Horn=20
> Subject: Re: Portuguese language changes
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> At 7:52 AM -0300 10/7/09=2C David A. Daniel wrote:
>>Portuguese is peppered with umlauts (or has been up till now). Example:
>>"conseq=FCente" where it makes the u pronounceable - as in English=2C "kw=
ent" -
>>whereas without the umlaut proscribed pronunciation would be "kent" as in
>>the word "quente" meaning "hot". Fact is=2C though=2C that everybody says=
kwent
>>and nobody writes the umlaut which is one reason they are doing away with
>>such things. I don=92t expect there to be any conseq=FCent changes to the=
spoken
>>language.
>>DAD
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> I think we've been down this road before=2C but
> there is evidently a split between those who call
> all superposed double-dot diacritics "umlauts"
> whatever their function and those who distinguish
> "true" umlauts (for vowel fronting) as in German
> and Turkish from the superposed double-dots in
> many Romance language orthographies (and English=2C
> e.g. on the second o in co=F6peration) that
> indicate diaeresis=2C i.e. individual pronunciation
> of the vowel on which it occurs as in the
> Portuguese case above.
>
> LH
>
>>
>>____________________________________________
>>We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf =
Of
>>Joel S. Berson
>>Sent: Tuesday=2C October 06=2C 2009 4:26 PM
>>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Portuguese language changes
>>
>>
>>
>>At 10/6/2009 02:14 PM=2C Mark Mandel wrote [quoting:
>>>Three letters will be dropped from the alphabet=2C umlauts will no longe=
r be
>>>used for certain words=2C ...
>>
>>"Umlauts" in Portuguese? I am suspicious=2C and therefore immediately
>>discount the truth of the article. (Only partly kidding.)
>>
>>But no-one I think has commented on the likelihood that such an edict
>>can have any effect on a spoken language.
>>
>>Joel
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