saying "umlaut"

[Julia Achenbach]

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>> Subject:      Re: saying "umlaut"
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>> Herb, I think we mean the same thing. If you had German in HS, you will
>> have definitely heard this word (??,?? and ?? are the Umlaute)
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>> The transcription did not turn out the way I was hoping it would.
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>> The first "u" in Umlaut is short. The second one is pronounced together
>> with the "a". This sound than is, as it has been stated already, sounds
>> like "ou" as in "out".

I meant to say the following:
It than sound like the "ou" in "out"
My bad.

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>> I hope this makes any sense.
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>>>> Poster:       Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> Subject:      Re: saying "umlaut"
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>>>> I think I learned the word in high school in German class, and it's
>>>> always been /'UmlaUt/ for me.  I'm not sure I've ever heard Julia's
>>>> pronunciation.
>>>>
>>>> Herb
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>>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Julia Achenbach
>>>> <julia.achenbach at uni-oldenburg.de> wrote:
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>>>>> Subject:      Re: saying "umlaut"
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>>>>> Shouldn't it be something like this:
>>>>> '? mla? t ???
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>>>>> The letter "u" is short, similar to the way "u" is pronounced in
>>>>> "gun",
>>>>> the so ~oom seems just a little bit weird to me.
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>>>>>>> Poster:       Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
>>>>>>> Subject:      saying "umlaut"
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>>>>>>> Interestly "umlaut" has multiple pronunciations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At forvo.com, enter "umlaut", click on the resulting first word (not
>>>>>>> arrow), see three pronunciations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1  ~oomlout (where ~oo is as in "good" ~ou as in "out", spoken by
>>>>>>> topquark
>>>>>>> 2. ~oomlou' (where "t" is dropped or glottalized) spoken by threb
>>>>>>> 3. ~oomllaat  (stress second syl, with ~aa as in "Saab", spoken by
>>>>>>> Olbill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thefreedictionary.com has
>>>>>>> 1. USA = ~uemlout (where ~ue is as in "true")
>>>>>>> 2. UK = ~uemllout (stress second syllable)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> m-w.com has two pronunciations
>>>>>>> 1. firstly  ~oomlout
>>>>>>> 2. secondly  ~uemlout
>>>>>>> (but the phonetic notation is in reverse order.  So which is really
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> or second?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's pretty rare in English to have a word start with ~oo.  Of the
>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>> 5k
>>>>>>> most popular words, none do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
>>>>>>> see truespel.com phonetic spelling
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