FW: Re: Antedating of "Hot Dog"--message from Barry Popik

[Laurence Horn]

Too bad about the Yale Record losing its pride of place (or of time), though...

LH

At 8:28 AM -0500 10/28/09, Cohen, Gerald Leonard wrote:
>Barry Popik sent the message below to several ads-l members this
>morning. He comments on Fred Shapiro's noticing of an 1893
>antedating of "hot dog"  and I now share Barry's message with the
>entire ads-l list.
>
>Gerald Cohen
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Barry Popik [mailto:bapopik at aol.com]
>Sent: Wed 10/28/2009 3:18 AM
>Subject: Re: Antedating of "Hot Dog"
>
>
>That's pretty good.
>...
>We now have three "hot dog" citations from 1893. There's one from
>September 1893, from Knoxville, TN, that I posted to ADS-L.
>...
>The Miami University citation is from a college annual, published in
>1893. My guess is that the material was probably written before May
>20, 1893 (when the school year would have been finished).
>...
>"As they are familiarly called" means that more citations are
>probably on the way.
>...
>Barry Popik
>Round Rock, TX
>www.barrypopik.com <http://www.barrypopik.com/>
>...
>...
>http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/hot_dog_polo_grounds_myth_original_monograph/
>Google Books
><http://books.google.com/books?id=tToiAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA92&dq=%22hot+dog%22+date:1890-1899&lr=&num=100&as_brr=0&as_pt=ALLTYPES&ei=K0-RScGgIISUzATlpKz1CQ>
>Miami University
>The Recensio
>College Annual
>1893
>Volume One
>>>From the Press of
>The Oxford News Company
>Oxford, Ohio
>Pg. 92:
>FAVORITE EJACULATIONS.
>(...)
>"Hot! Dog!"
>
>20 May 1893, New Brunswick (NJ) Daily Times, pg. 1, col. 7:
>How New Jersey Breaks the Monotony of Life.
>The Frankfurter man Expelled from Asbury Park.
>ASBURY PARK, May 19.-The frankfurter sausage peddler must go. This
>is the edict that has gone forth from the mayor and council of
>Asbury Park, and an ordinance has been adopted forbidding these
>renders within the confines of this resort by the sea. These "hot
>dog" peddlers, as they are familiarly called, have carried on their
>business uninterrupted with as much persistence and tact as their
>fellow merchants on Coney island. Standing in front of the hotels
>and on the street comers, with their cries of "All hot," they have
>been a familiar sight to thousands of summer visitors. Now this will
>be changed.
>
>28 September 1893, Knoxville (TN) Journal, "The (They? -- ed.) Wore
>Overcoats," pg. 5:
>It was so cool last night that the appearance of overcoats was
>common, and stoves and grates were again brought into comfortable
>use. Even the weinerwurst men began preparing to get the "hot dogs"
>ready for sale Saturday night.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Cc: bapopik at aol.com <bapopik at aol.com>; jester at panix.com <jester at panix.com>
>Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 9:37 pm
>Subject: Antedating of "Hot Dog"
>
>
>
>I believe Barry Popik, as part of his magnificent researches into
>the history of
>food terms, has traced the term "hot dog" as far back as September 1893.  The
>following is a slightly earlier citation I have found:
>
>
>ASBURY PARK, May 19.-The frankfurter
>sausage peddler must go. This is the edict
>that has gone forth from the mayor and
>council of Asbury Park, and an ordinance
>has been adopted forbidding: these renders
>within the confines of this resort by the sea.
>These "hot dog" peddlers, as they are
>familiarly called, have carried on their business
>uninterrupted with as much persistence
>and tact as their fellow merchants on Coney
>island. Standing in front of the hotels and
>on the street comers, with their cries of "All
>hot," they have been a familiar sight to
>thousands of summer visitors. Now this
>will be changed.
>
>Daily Times (New Brunswick, N.J.), May 20, 1893, p. 1 (Newspaperarchive)
>
>Fred Shapiro
>Editor
>Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press)=
>
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