whom in OED inaccuracy
Baker, John
JMB at STRADLEY.COM
Fri Sep 18 00:27:01 UTC 2009
While I think it is quite true that there are some constructions
in which "whom" is the natural choice in colloquial speech, I notice
that there are many examples in which "who" sounds quite natural, even
though it follows a preposition. Looking at the MWDEU article on "who,
whom," I see the following examples in uses by educated speakers or
writers:
King Lear: Albany: Run, run, O, run!
Edgar: To who, my lord? Who has the office?
Hamlet: Polonius: What is the matter, my lord?
Hamlet: Between who?
Polonius: I mean, the matter that you read, my lord?
Faulkner: And he said, Well, haven't you got any opinion at all
about them? And I said, About who?
John Baker
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Subject: whom in OED inaccuracy
I just got back from a trip to Australia, the purpose of which was to
consult with Rodney Huddleston about an English grammar textbook I am
writing. While I was there, I received an email from a friend in
Beijing that contained "xxx of yyy, who* many of us have known only
virtually up until now". He facetiously added "*Beijing is a whom-free
zone".
I asked Rodney if he thought "whom" was dying, and he said no, very few
speakers would accept constructions like "most of who".
I don't know if there is a newer online version of the OED that I cannot
access, but the one that I can access, just under the headword "whom",
says:
The objective case of WHO: no longer current in natural colloquial
speech.
This is inaccurate. Perhaps the entry could be modified to say that in
natural colloquial speech it is no longer current unless preceded by a
preposition.
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Randy Alexander
Jilin City, China
My Manchu studies blog:
http://www.bjshengr.com/manchu
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