Fwd: Re: Popsicle

[Laurence Horn]

>In answer to Wilson, Creamsicles (if you mean vanilla ice cream center w/ an
>outer layer of orange sherbet, on a stick) were very popular in Norfolk VA,
>where I grew up.
>
>Bill Palmer

And in New York, from at least the 1950's.

LH

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>From: "Damien Hall" <djh514 at YORK.AC.UK>
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>Subject: Fwd: Re: Popsicle
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>>>From Wilson.
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>>Damien
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>>From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
>>Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:56:17 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Popsicle
>>To: djh514 at york.ac.uk
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>>FWIW, I've always imagined it to be a blend of _(soda)pop(-like)
>>[i]cicle_. Since I came up with this around the age of six, if others
>>find it unlikely, I won't be at all surprised. Were there Creamcicles
>>elsewhere than in Saint Louis?
>>
>>-Wilson
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>>On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Damien Hall <djh514 at york.ac.uk> wrote:
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>>>My first Twitter-inspired ADSL query: the origins of _popsicle_ (which I
>>>now learn is a trademarked name).
>>>
>>>One of the people I follow mentions the story that the word comes from
>>>the
>>>inventor's children, who called it "Pop's sicle"; the inventor, Frank
>>>Epperson, had apparently called it an _epsicle_, presumably a blend of
>>>
>>><ep>(-person) + (i-)<sicle>.
>>>
>>>OED is 'uncertain', saying it's possibly
>>>
>>>(lolli-)<pop> + (i-)<sicle>
>>>
>>>(the usual BrE name for these things is 'ice lolly', presumably an
>>>abbreviation of 'lollipop')
>>>
>>>The online version of MW that I have access to says nothing about the
>>>possible etymology, nor does Barry Popik's website. As I don't know about
>>>food etymology, but 'I know a man who does', I'm copying Barry in here
>>>(with the address he used when he was a member of the list) in case he
>>>has
>>>any comments; anyone else? The "Pop's sicle" story seems to me possible
>>>but
>>>unlikely, as too convenient!
>>>
>>>Damien
>>>
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