Fwd: Re: Popsicle

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Sun Apr 4 03:17:16 UTC 2010 

Ditto about the sticks (I did) and Cho-Cho (I didn't know).  But
wasn't there also a time when if you collected enough sticks you got
a reward? (Another Pop/Creamsicle?)  Or am I RI (Rembering Incorrectly)?

Joel

At 4/3/2010 10:13 PM, Bill Palmer wrote:
>Absolutely used to save the sticks to make just the things you describe,
>Wilson.
>
>Don't know Cho-Cho, but we had a similarly shaped and paper wrapped sugar
>cone w/ vanilla ice cream, thin chocolate coating, and crushed peanuts sort
>of embedded at the wide end of the cone.  Called a "Nutty Buddy".
>
>Bill Palmer
>
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>>Yes, Bill. That was exactly what I had in mind. Did y'all also save
>>the sticks - from whatever -cicle source - to make lattice-like
>>doodads used and useful for nothing in particular?
>>
>>How about the frozen-malted-milk-ish confection that came in a
>>Dixie-ish cup and with stick? You rubbed the cup between your palms to
>>separate the confection from the cup, stuck the -cicle-type stick into
>>the stuff, and discarded the cup. It had a brand-name: Cho-Cho.
>>
>>-Wilson
>>
>>On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Bill Palmer <w_a_palmer at bellsouth.net>
>>wrote:
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>>>In answer to Wilson, Creamsicles (if you mean vanilla ice cream center w/
>>>an
>>>outer layer of orange sherbet, on a stick) were very popular in Norfolk
>>>VA,
>>>where I grew up.
>>>
>>>Bill Palmer
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>>>> From Wilson.
>>>>
>>>>Damien
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>>>>From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
>>>>Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:56:17 -0400
>>>>Subject: Re: Popsicle
>>>>To: djh514 at york.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>>FWIW, I've always imagined it to be a blend of _(soda)pop(-like)
>>>>[i]cicle_. Since I came up with this around the age of six, if others
>>>>find it unlikely, I won't be at all surprised. Were there Creamcicles
>>>>elsewhere than in Saint Louis?
>>>>
>>>>-Wilson
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Damien Hall <djh514 at york.ac.uk> wrote:
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>>>>>My first Twitter-inspired ADSL query: the origins of _popsicle_ (which
>>>>>I
>>>>>now learn is a trademarked name).
>>>>>
>>>>>One of the people I follow mentions the story that the word comes from
>>>>>the
>>>>>inventor's children, who called it "Pop's sicle"; the inventor, Frank
>>>>>Epperson, had apparently called it an _epsicle_, presumably a blend of
>>>>>
>>>>><ep>(-person) + (i-)<sicle>.
>>>>>
>>>>>OED is 'uncertain', saying it's possibly
>>>>>
>>>>>(lolli-)<pop> + (i-)<sicle>
>>>>>
>>>>>(the usual BrE name for these things is 'ice lolly', presumably an
>>>>>abbreviation of 'lollipop')
>>>>>
>>>>>The online version of MW that I have access to says nothing about the
>>>>>possible etymology, nor does Barry Popik's website. As I don't know
>>>>>about
>>>>>food etymology, but 'I know a man who does', I'm copying Barry in here
>>>>>(with the address he used when he was a member of the list) in case he
>>>>>has
>>>>>any comments; anyone else? The "Pop's sicle" story seems to me possible
>>>>>but
>>>>>unlikely, as too convenient!
>>>>>
>>>>>Damien
>>>>>
>>>>>--
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