Popsicle

Sun Apr 4 21:23:16 UTC 2010

We had Popsicles, Creamsicles, Fudgsicles and Dreamsicles in Monroe,
NY as early as I can remember (1953-54).  We had Nutty Buddies, and
the similar Drumsticks too, though no Cho-Chos.

Paul Johnston

On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Bill Palmer wrote:

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> Absolutely used to save the sticks to make just the things you
> describe,
> Wilson.
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> Don't know Cho-Cho, but we had a similarly shaped and paper wrapped
> sugar
> cone w/ vanilla ice cream, thin chocolate coating, and crushed
> peanuts sort
> of embedded at the wide end of the cone.  Called a "Nutty Buddy".
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> Bill Palmer
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>> Yes, Bill. That was exactly what I had in mind. Did y'all also save
>> the sticks - from whatever -cicle source - to make lattice-like
>> doodads used and useful for nothing in particular?
>>
>> How about the frozen-malted-milk-ish confection that came in a
>> Dixie-ish cup and with stick? You rubbed the cup between your
>> palms to
>> separate the confection from the cup, stuck the -cicle-type stick
>> into
>> the stuff, and discarded the cup. It had a brand-name: Cho-Cho.
>>
>> -Wilson
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Bill Palmer
>> <w_a_palmer at bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
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>>> In answer to Wilson, Creamsicles (if you mean vanilla ice cream
>>> center w/
>>> an
>>> outer layer of orange sherbet, on a stick) were very popular in
>>> Norfolk
>>> VA,
>>> where I grew up.
>>>
>>> Bill Palmer
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>>>> From Wilson.
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>>>> Damien
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>>>> From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:56:17 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: Popsicle
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>>>> FWIW, I've always imagined it to be a blend of _(soda)pop(-like)
>>>> [i]cicle_. Since I came up with this around the age of six, if
>>>> others
>>>> find it unlikely, I won't be at all surprised. Were there
>>>> Creamcicles
>>>> elsewhere than in Saint Louis?
>>>>
>>>> -Wilson
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Damien Hall <djh514 at york.ac.uk>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> My first Twitter-inspired ADSL query: the origins of _popsicle_
>>>>> (which
>>>>> I
>>>>> now learn is a trademarked name).
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the people I follow mentions the story that the word
>>>>> comes from
>>>>> the
>>>>> inventor's children, who called it "Pop's sicle"; the inventor,
>>>>> Frank
>>>>> Epperson, had apparently called it an _epsicle_, presumably a
>>>>> blend of
>>>>>
>>>>> <ep>(-person) + (i-)<sicle>.
>>>>>
>>>>> OED is 'uncertain', saying it's possibly
>>>>>
>>>>> (lolli-)<pop> + (i-)<sicle>
>>>>>
>>>>> (the usual BrE name for these things is 'ice lolly', presumably an
>>>>> abbreviation of 'lollipop')
>>>>>
>>>>> The online version of MW that I have access to says nothing
>>>>> about the
>>>>> possible etymology, nor does Barry Popik's website. As I don't
>>>>> know
>>>>> about
>>>>> food etymology, but 'I know a man who does', I'm copying Barry
>>>>> in here
>>>>> (with the address he used when he was a member of the list) in
>>>>> case he
>>>>> has
>>>>> any comments; anyone else? The "Pop's sicle" story seems to me
>>>>> possible
>>>>> but
>>>>> unlikely, as too convenient!
>>>>>
>>>>> Damien
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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