Popsicle
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Mon Apr 5 19:05:03 UTC 2010
>On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>>
>> At 4:23 PM +0100 4/5/10, Damien Hall wrote:
>> >Larry and Paul commented on the non-pronunciation of the /s/ in
>> >'Fudgesicle'. Possibly it is dialectal, but isn't the simplest explanation
>> >phonetic / phonological? It seems to me very likely that in a sequence of
>> >
>> >affricate /J/ + fricative /s/
>> >
>> >- which could be simplified to
>> >
>> >(/d/ +) voiced fricative /Z/ + fricative /s/
>> >
>> >one of the two will get elided, at least in fast speech. If you believe in
>> >the Obligatory Contour Principle (not saying I don't, but not everyone
>> >does!), that would be one way of describing it.
>>
>> Phonology/phonetics is relevant to be sure, but I'd never pronounce
> > John Hodgson's name [haJ at n] rather than [haJs at n], and I'm sure it's
>> not just frequency (in that this would be the case even I were
>> Hodgson's cousin, or Jon Stewart, or the other guy in those Mac vs.
>> PC commercials).
>
>Sorry, Larry, that's John *Hodgman*. Perhaps you're thinking of
>Islamic scholar
>Marshall Hodgson, Nixon's Secretary of Labor James Hodgson, or Mysterious
>Science Theater 3000 cohost Joel Hodgson?
>
Whoops. So you're telling me my pronunciation of "Hodgman" as
[haJs at n] is idiosyncratic? OK, in the possible world in which he was
named "Hodgson", I wouldn't dream of assimilating his /s/. And then
there's "Dodge City"; always [daJsIdi] never [daJIdi]. I know,
doesn't count.
LH
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