Eyjafjallajokull from an icelander

[Paul Johnston]

Some dialects (even some American ones) have initial /tl dl/ for /kl
gl/.  They always have clear /l/ when this happens, and it is
devoiced.  I remember a commercial for Zest soap where the voices on
it sang/spoke about being "Zestfully [tlin]" with a definite [tl-].
Common in N England, too.

Paul Johnston
On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Herb Stahlke wrote:

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> Victor,
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> /tl/ does not occur in syllable-initial position in English, but it
> does, as you show, occur across syllable boundaries in British
> English.  However, these sequences are not what Icelandic has, where
> the /t/ is released on the side of the tongue rather than at the
> front, hence a "laterally released /t/."  In languages that have this
> sound it typically counts as a single consonant, not a cluster or a
> sequence.
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> Herb
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> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Victor Steinbok
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>> Without suggesting error, I would like an explanation of bottle,
>> throttle, mettle, cattle, settle, kettle, little, mantle, subtle and
>> boot-licker, antler, ant-lion--and, for good measure, metal, petal,
>> portal. US might be closer to [d] in most of these (not boot-licker,
>> antler, ant-lion or mantle, and no US variant for little, for some
>> reason), but OED says [t] for British. And mantle, little and subtle
>> have both schwa and non-schwa variants.
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>>     VS-)
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>> On 4/22/2010 11:48 AM, Geoffrey Nathan wrote:
>>> ... Since the combination of t-l is impossible in English, native
>>> speakers find it hard to deal with, especially at the beginning
>>> or ending of a word.
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