"Wop" in 1908?

[Wilson Gray]

Hm. Food for thought.

-Wilson

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 9:13 PM -0400 4/28/10, Garson O'Toole wrote:
>>Wonderful detective work finding the instance with the alternate
>>spelling for wop. Here is a 1908 cite in which "the Wop" is used to
>>designate an Italian long-distance runner, Dorando Pietri.
>>
>>1908 December 16, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Longboat Wins Marathon Race,
>>Page 8, Column 4, Cleveland, Ohio. (GenealogyBank)
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>>Plainly the Indian showed that he had run the Italian off his feet.
>>... when MacFarland fired the shot at 9:14 that started the Indian and
>>the Wop on their journey of twenty-six miles and 380 yards.
>>
>>Garson
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> So if things had worked out differently and Lou Sockalexis had been
> Luigi Soccaleschi, the team in Progressive (formerly Jacobs) Field
> would be the Cleveland Wops instead of the Cleveland Indians?
>
> LH
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>>On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Jonathan Lighter
>><wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>  The cite provided by M-W is accurate, but I believe it represents an
>>>  obsolete, broader sense of "wop," more or less equivalent to current "jerk."
>>>
>>>  The earliest ex. to hand that unmistakably designates Italians (OED: 1910):
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>>>  1909 _N.Y. Times_ (Feb. 23) 4: A crowd of men and boys followed four or five
>>>  Italians along Canal Street last night, tormenting them by calling them
>>>  "Waps" and "Ginneys" [both sic]. Finally near Orchard Street the Italians
>>>  turned to fight.
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>>>  JL
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