"Wop" in 1908?
Paul Johnston
paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Thu Apr 29 04:45:36 UTC 2010
Well, Cleveland could have signed Ed Abbatichio....
Paul Johnston
On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
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> At 9:13 PM -0400 4/28/10, Garson O'Toole wrote:
>> Wonderful detective work finding the instance with the alternate
>> spelling for wop. Here is a 1908 cite in which "the Wop" is used to
>> designate an Italian long-distance runner, Dorando Pietri.
>>
>> 1908 December 16, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Longboat Wins Marathon
>> Race,
>> Page 8, Column 4, Cleveland, Ohio. (GenealogyBank)
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>> Plainly the Indian showed that he had run the Italian off his feet.
>> ... when MacFarland fired the shot at 9:14 that started the Indian
>> and
>> the Wop on their journey of twenty-six miles and 380 yards.
>>
>> Garson
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> So if things had worked out differently and Lou Sockalexis had been
> Luigi Soccaleschi, the team in Progressive (formerly Jacobs) Field
> would be the Cleveland Wops instead of the Cleveland Indians?
>
> LH
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>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Jonathan Lighter
>> <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> The cite provided by M-W is accurate, but I believe it
>>> represents an
>>> obsolete, broader sense of "wop," more or less equivalent to
>>> current "jerk."
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>>> The earliest ex. to hand that unmistakably designates Italians
>>> (OED: 1910):
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>>> 1909 _N.Y. Times_ (Feb. 23) 4: A crowd of men and boys followed
>>> four or five
>>> Italians along Canal Street last night, tormenting them by
>>> calling them
>>> "Waps" and "Ginneys" [both sic]. Finally near Orchard Street the
>>> Italians
>>> turned to fight.
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>>> JL
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