gender-neutral pronouns as epic fails

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Aug 3 14:16:52 UTC 2010


> Traditional Japanese sexism
> springs straight from the fact that they have no pronoun distinguishing
> women from inanimate objects! It makes you treat them the same, whether yo=
> u want to or not!

Looks like this goes under topic - language affecting thinking, or vice versa


Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
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> But don't you see, Wilson, Don't you *see*? Traditional Japanese sexism
> springs straight from the fact that they have no pronoun distinguishing
> women from inanimate objects! It makes you treat them the same, whether yo=
> u
> want to or not!
>
> O tempura! O morays!
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> JL
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> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:57 AM, Dan Goodman wrote:
> > > "That person."
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> > A calque on the Japanese?
> >
> > For those totally unfamiliar with that language, in general, it has no
> > means of disinguishing among _he she it_. As a consequence, the
> > culture of Japan is a shining beacon to the world WRT equality of the
> > sexes, clearly demonstrating the innate truth of the Whorf/Sapir
> > hypothesis.
> >
> > -Wilson
> > =96=96=96
> > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"=96=96a strange complaint t=
> o
> > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > =96Mark Twain
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