"PIN"

Neal Whitman nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET
Thu Aug 12 16:44:43 UTC 2010


And more recently, CoCA and CoHA corpora--the first acronymic redundancy I've seen with first initial made redundant instead of the last.

Neal

On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

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> I am sure they also refer to NBA basketball and NFL football. All
> three refer to organizational names that include the name of the
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> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Dan Goodman <dsgood at iphouse.com> wrote:
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>> Charles C Doyle wrote:
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>>> I know we have discussed the redundancy of the commonly heard "PIN number"; but have we mentioned the fact that, paradoxically, a PIN (or PIN number) need not be a number at all?  That fact just struck me when I logged on to my university's library account:  There, when I am instructed to enter my PIN, what I type is a series of alphabetic characters, with nary a digit.
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>>> As the frequency of the redundant term "PIN number" also suggests, the basis of the acronym, pretty recently coined, has become opaque.
>> USA Today's tv listings of baseball broadcasts include the phrase "MLB
>> baseball."
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