Invading Pearl harbor

[Dan Goncharoff]

I note that Reagan's famous speech about the Grenada invasion never uses
the word invasion...

http://www.beirut-memorial.org/history/reagan.html

Nor did Bush in announcing the invasion of Panama:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ghwbushpanamainvasion.htm

Or his son in announcing the invasion of Iraq:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/wariniraq/gwbushiraq31903.htm

But the press used the word freely.

FDR had no issue talking about the invasion of France, however:

http://select.nytimes.com/mem/archive/pdf?res=F10717F73855157B93C5A9178DD85F408485F9

DanG

On 2/5/2010 5:59 PM, Bill Palmer wrote:
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> Thanks JL.  A point I hadn't considered. I was about to counter with "what
> about the invasion of Normandy?" until your next post on this subject.
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> In this country, whatever it was that happened in Iraq in 2003, is routinely
> termed an invasion, but I don't know if that is only used by those who
> opposed it, or not.  Maybe those who favored it were more likely to say
> "liberation".
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>> Bill, my SWAG is that in PR/ feel-good/ bureaucrat terms, only bad guys
>> "invade."
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>> JL
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>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Bill Palmer
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>>> In the 1980s when I was teaching war planning, the preferred term was
>>> "force
>>> entry".  For whatever reason, "invade/invasion" was never used.
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>>> But in any case, I echo the comments of Brian&  others..."invasion" stood
>>> out as much more out of place than any other part of the quotation..
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>>>> I think invasion also implies an intent to conquer and stay.
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>>>>> What seems more odd than the quotation marks around "evil" is the use
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> word "invasion" to describe what the Japanese did to Pearl Harbor.
>>>>>   Wouldn't
>>>>> "bombing' or 'attack' or 'destruction' be more apt? Doesn't an
>>>>> invasion
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