"justify": another reversal
Wilson Gray
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Sat Feb 13 19:41:11 UTC 2010
Different strokes, y'all. Shine it on.
-Wilson
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Dave Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
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> I have no doubt that the Bad Girls usage is exactly how you say. I'm just
> pointing out that the initial assessment of a "foolish slip" is the correct
> one as there does not seem to be any significant wider use of the
> expression. I don't think the data (a half dozen or so ghits) is
> significant.
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> Jonathan Lighter
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> The data is limited but significant.
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> The speaker on TV was not being ironic. Nor was she groping for words. She
> thought the punishment was too severe and said so.
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> She thought.
>
> JL
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> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Dave Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
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>> Of those 1500 ghits, only about 13 are actual hits. The others are
>> repetitions and quotes of the original. And in some of the 13, the phrase
>> is
>> being used ironically--expressing the opinion that light punishment
>> encourages violations.
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>> Add to the list that includes _ancestor_, _substitute_, and (soon) _*via_.
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>> Said a college-grad Bad Girl this week, "I don't think the punishment
>> justifies the crime!" She meant it didn't fit the crime.
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>> I was going to ignore this as a foolish slip. Then I found nearly 1500 raw
>> Googlits for "punishment justifies the crime."
>>
>> JL
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