erotics

Sun Feb 14 19:50:43 UTC 2010

You don't get much more mainstream than the NY Times Book Review:

1986 Alicia Ostriker, "American Poetry, Now Shaped by Women" in _NYTBR_
(March 9) 28: Sharon Olds enacts an erotics of family love and pain.
That  means her poetry does. Ostriker's review begins on page 1.

JL
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:17 PM, ROBIN HAMILTON <
robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com> wrote:

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> This for what it's worth ...  When I tried to get more detail to supplement
> my vague memories, most of the stuff I tried to access was hidden behind the
> jstor pay-wall.
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> So the following is ultra-impressionistic, if it even connects with what
> Jon is pointing to at all.
>
> The term "erotics of literature" (with "erotics" originally coined in an
> analogy to "poetics", I've always assumed)is relatively widespread among a
> certain kind of contempory literary critic, usually those with a
> French/Post-structuralist orientation working in the area of feminist or
> gay/queer studies.
>
> It originated with Roland Barthes, I'd guess fairly late in his career, but
> possibly before the various English cites Jon gives.
>
> This from google pointing to something that presumably gives more detail if
> you have access to jstor:
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> Two and Two Make More Than Four
> D Kirby - College English, 1984 - jstor.org
> .... number of women, indifferent to a tradition of male authority, are at
> the forefront of current develop-
> ments in both criticism and writing.) Finally, both promote what the father
> of post-structuralism
> called an erotics of literature. Meaning be damned, said Roland Barthes in
> his later ...
>
> Obviously whatever term Barthes used, and whenever he used it, it would be
> in French, and predate the English version.  Just when Barthes became
> central to a certain branch of English LitCrit, I'm not sure, but I'd
> certainly come across him in the middle sixties, so I'd guess at least from
> the mid-seventies or earlier, anything he said in French would rapidly be
> translated, transformed, or transferred into English.
>
> Robin
>
> [Caveat and Declaration of (Un)Interest.
>
> The only books by Barthes I have any time for at all are _Writing Degree
> Zero_ and _Elements of Semiology_ -- as he gets on, and the further away he
> gets from de Saussure, the less I can be bothered with him, and I blame him
> for much of the crap which ...  Well, we all have our little biases.
>
> So I don't know very much in this area, and what I do know is heavily
> coloured by an antagonistic prejudice rising at times to unbridled venom and
> fury.
>
> R.]
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> --- On Sat, 13/2/10, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> > From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: erotics
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> > Date: Saturday, 13 February, 2010, 17:54
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> > A description or analysis of _eros_ , eroticism, or an
> > erotic element;
> > (also) a social, psychological, metaphysical, or other
> > process involving
> > such concepts.
> >
> > 1975-76 Christine Downing in _Jour. of the Amer. Acad. of
> > Religion_ XLIV
> > (Dec.) 629: Towards an Erotics of the Psyche....Because
> > Eros is the god of
> > transformative love, there is not only an erotics of the
> > psyche but a
> > psychotics of eros. _Ibid_. 638: [T]he human other...[is]
> > the dimension that
> > distinguishes an erotics of the psyche from a poetics or an
> > aesthetics.
> >
> > 1983 John Rouse in _College English_ XLV (Oct., 1983) 535:
> > An Erotics of
> > Teaching.....Surely there is a seductive elemnt in the
> > realtions we have
> > with our students.
> >
> > 1993 Eric White in _Science Fiction Studies_ XX (Nov.) 394:
> > The Erotics of
> > Becoming: Xenogenesis and _The Thing_. Ibid. 407: From an
> > "erotics of being"
> > transpiring under the rubric of the "human" that abominates
> > the body and
> > materiality in general, XENOGENESIS arrives at an "erotics
> > of becoming" that
> > proposes the self-similar mutations of a subject-in-process
> > as a way to
> > reconcile the need for psychological structure with the
> > possibility of
> > embracing the flux of matter in motion.
> >
> > 2004 Purnima Mankekar & Louisa Schein in _Jour. of
> > Asian Studies_ LXIII
> > (May) 357: Introduction: Mediated Transnationalism and
> > Social Erotics.
> > _Ibid._ 358: [T]transnational erotics remixes sex and
> > space, refashioning
> > the most intimate of interiorities.
> >
> > JL
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> >
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