nomconjobjs: between you and me/I

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Feb 22 16:41:20 UTC 2010

Is the phrase "by a factor of" common in US?  To say A outnumbers B by a factor of 4.4 - what does that mean?  If B is 100 than A is  ?

Sorry.  Too old for new math.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
see phonetic spelling

> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:32:00 -0800
> From: zwicky at STANFORD.EDU
> Subject: nomconjobjs: between you and me/I
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> Sender: American Dialect Society
> Poster: Arnold Zwicky
> Subject: nomconjobjs: between you and me/I
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> back in this thread, Jon Lighter claimed that "between you and I" had
> virtually replaced "between you and me" (at least in certain
> contexts). this is wildly exaggerated, but there's a point here.
> google searches on {"just between you and me"} and {"just between you
> and I"] shows substantial numbers for both, but the second outnumbers
> the first -- by a factor of 4.4 in raw hits, by a factor of 1.44 in a
> "reduced" search. (both occur in song titles, by the way.)
> the number of hits for the second is jacked yp -- it's hard to tell
> how much -- by a large number of *complaints* about "between you and i".
> so, "between you and me" isn't really threatened, but "between you and
> I" seems to be well-established in informal english.
> arnold
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